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absolutely because tunisia is the pioneer of the arab spring if you look at it this way but right now you still don't have a constitution and you're saying the country is not in crisis but it's still kind of shaky could you say that revolution is over we happen to constitutional for the separation this is one of the mission of the consented assembly to draft a new constitution we are working this. you know fix a date by the end of this year hardly a constitution i'm sure it would be a democracy course you should really is moving in the right direction we have we heart and election it was the first democratic election in the modern history of tunisia then we form of the question government when we have you know three political parties working together other think this model is positive and attractive or not for positive not only fourteen easier but for the whole region but if you look at the statistics for example tunisia is economy fell down two percent this year unemployment is still high here president has fired they had of the central bank i think last week if i'm not mystery it's
absolutely because tunisia is the pioneer of the arab spring if you look at it this way but right now you still don't have a constitution and you're saying the country is not in crisis but it's still kind of shaky could you say that revolution is over we happen to constitutional for the separation this is one of the mission of the consented assembly to draft a new constitution we are working this. you know fix a date by the end of this year hardly a constitution i'm sure it would be a democracy...
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so another tunisia is now facing a political crisis over the extradition of a former top libyan official back to libya president has condemned the move and the parliament is ready to consider and no confidence vote to the government is your government not prepared to face the consequences alone of this one sided action it seems like they too could. without the president of the there is no crisis put across as it's easier there is differences between you know position. the political position towards the extradition of what you already agreed as a government to extradite would you be ready to demand you know ability to come back to return but only to attorneys you have to be subject to try. so it's very normal you don't get to access credit. after certain conditions in the make conditions but you are provided just. in the pond that the tried and we already confident that this is would happen and you need to be talking about the fair trial your reaction is probably predicted because your member of the government or any member of the ruling and not a party but we like here we get daily repor
so another tunisia is now facing a political crisis over the extradition of a former top libyan official back to libya president has condemned the move and the parliament is ready to consider and no confidence vote to the government is your government not prepared to face the consequences alone of this one sided action it seems like they too could. without the president of the there is no crisis put across as it's easier there is differences between you know position. the political position...
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because of the top stories next hour if you so be sure nancy talks to tunisia's foreign minister about the arab spring in his country and the entire region. that's six of the seven am tunisian foreign minister it's great to have you with us sara today thank you so another tunisia is now facing a political crisis over the extradition of a former top libyan official back to libya president has condemned the move and the parliament is ready to consider and no confidence vote to the government is your government not prepared to face the consequences alone of this one sided action that seems like they too could without the president of the there is no crisis of course crisis it's easier there is differences between you know position. the political position towards the critics tradition of what you already agreed as a government to extract it would you be ready to demand you know what i need to come back to return but i need to a tree easier to be subject to trade so it's a very normal you don't tool extra duty or do you after a certain conditions in the make conditions but you were provided
because of the top stories next hour if you so be sure nancy talks to tunisia's foreign minister about the arab spring in his country and the entire region. that's six of the seven am tunisian foreign minister it's great to have you with us sara today thank you so another tunisia is now facing a political crisis over the extradition of a former top libyan official back to libya president has condemned the move and the parliament is ready to consider and no confidence vote to the government is...
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welcome back i'm max kaiser time now to go to economist professor and member of parliament in tunisia. mon stuff welcome to the kaiser report. thanks for the invitation all right month seth i first met you in july of two thousand and nine when you sat opposite me on france twenty four is debate show where we debated a wall street has it learned its lesson and the answer obviously is yes they have learned how to steal and steal and stealing get away with it again and again your thoughts well my thought my thought is that when there the communism died with the fall of the berlin wall we know that capitalism died the same day because real careful ism is not working anymore and that's true that most of the people who all three are throwing to get money but not but not growing to premieres the real economy job creation and the creation well it's interesting you bring up the fall of the berlin wall and the collapse of communism and you say that there is a collapse of capitalism at the same time i would posit that what we saw was a continuation of central planning the central planning ball w
welcome back i'm max kaiser time now to go to economist professor and member of parliament in tunisia. mon stuff welcome to the kaiser report. thanks for the invitation all right month seth i first met you in july of two thousand and nine when you sat opposite me on france twenty four is debate show where we debated a wall street has it learned its lesson and the answer obviously is yes they have learned how to steal and steal and stealing get away with it again and again your thoughts well my...
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of people who were in the opposition and had historical credibility no one can deny the fact that in tunisia in egypt mr president they had a popularity and they were tortured so the first reaction was coming back to make reference and supporting to keep. who had this historical tribute it doesn't mean that it's going to stay the same does it mean that we are going through steps to be seen but what we have seen though in tunisia and what we are now witnessing in egypt is still very complex is not yet done i'm not sure even at the time i'm talking to you that the muslim brotherhood are going to win the election i might i'm always almost sure that it's going to be the opposite and we all this process is the coming back of the old regime with a very strong army in egypt but you know personally i know that you know if you used the term arab awakening and said arab spring could you have predicted this sort of an outcome yes anyone who is studying the region and look at what is happening knew. that in fact the islamists have a very important role in order countries it's true in morocco it's true i
of people who were in the opposition and had historical credibility no one can deny the fact that in tunisia in egypt mr president they had a popularity and they were tortured so the first reaction was coming back to make reference and supporting to keep. who had this historical tribute it doesn't mean that it's going to stay the same does it mean that we are going through steps to be seen but what we have seen though in tunisia and what we are now witnessing in egypt is still very complex is...
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that we are still seeing unfinished processes in the country now the people who are in the streets in tunisia egypt there were young people young and not so young people and only object was to get treated the dictator and the regime so they want to treat them dignity and justice and less corruption they were not expecting anything and it was beyond any ideological trend what happened as a second step is the presence of people who were in the opposition and had historical credibility no one can deny the fact that in tunisia in egypt this president they had popularity and they were tortured repressed so the first reaction was coming back to make reference and supporting to people who had this historical credulity doesn't mean that he's going to stay the same doesn't mean that we are going through steps to be seen but what we have seen now when and what we are now witnessing in egypt is still very complex is not yet done i'm not sure even at the time i'm talking to you that the muslim brotherhood are going to win the election i might i'm always almost sure that it's going to be the opposite and
that we are still seeing unfinished processes in the country now the people who are in the streets in tunisia egypt there were young people young and not so young people and only object was to get treated the dictator and the regime so they want to treat them dignity and justice and less corruption they were not expecting anything and it was beyond any ideological trend what happened as a second step is the presence of people who were in the opposition and had historical credibility no one can...
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countries it's true it's true in libya it's true in tunisia in egypt in syria even today and in other countries if you have to deal with true transparent democracy processes you. will have the rule now the rule being the leading force in the country this was not expected i would when i was asked about this before i was saying thirty percent presenting thirty percent and in fact if you look at the parliamentary elections in tunisia they are thirty percent in egypt is exactly the same after the first round of the presidential election it doesn't mean that in the future in the coming future things are not going to be seen that were not expected either which is a kind of controlled democracies and army playing a very important role behind the scenes all strategy can economy interest controlling the country as we are seeing now we know libya. we are seeing even in yemen because we don't speak very much about yemen and if you go to behind no one is talking about and it's presented as a fight between soon the why does more than this this is a shaken petrol monarchy no petrol in a key should
countries it's true it's true in libya it's true in tunisia in egypt in syria even today and in other countries if you have to deal with true transparent democracy processes you. will have the rule now the rule being the leading force in the country this was not expected i would when i was asked about this before i was saying thirty percent presenting thirty percent and in fact if you look at the parliamentary elections in tunisia they are thirty percent in egypt is exactly the same after the...
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but in terms of the muslim brotherhood's power, you have to remember that tunisia also went through a revolution and they also held elections and the brotherhood party won the plorality of the vote there. the brotherhood won the majority of seats in egypt's parliament. now, why are they winning? it's in part because, yes, historically, they were able to talk to people through the mosques, but, ultimately, why they won and i saw it in action in tunisia and i was observing the elections because they were mobilizing through familiar networks. they were mobilizing their families through friends and they were, they were close to the people on the ground. and they were working at that community grassroots level. now, i think whether or not they will continue to have the support in the elections is a question and that will come down to what kind of governing decisions they make. and the brotherhood's support in egypt was said to be slipping. >> and, mona, mona seems to be making the point that part of the slipping of that support is the fact that the closer they get to be appear implemented
but in terms of the muslim brotherhood's power, you have to remember that tunisia also went through a revolution and they also held elections and the brotherhood party won the plorality of the vote there. the brotherhood won the majority of seats in egypt's parliament. now, why are they winning? it's in part because, yes, historically, they were able to talk to people through the mosques, but, ultimately, why they won and i saw it in action in tunisia and i was observing the elections because...
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but he fled to neighboring tunisia soon after tripoli fell. the president of tunisia has called his extradition illegal and says it was done without his consent. and human rights groups were concerned that he is at a real risk of torture or death and libya but the new government pledged to treat all detainees fairly, including gaddafi's son who authorities say should be tried in libya and not by the international criminal courts. that tussle remains unresolved but what is more certain is that gaddafi's former prime minister will face a charge -- trial on home soil. >> you are watching "gmt" on bbc world news and these are our top headlines. turkey's cabinet is meeting to discuss a response to the shooting down by syria of the turkish fighter jets saturday. egypt's first democratically elected president is starting to assemble his government. jamie robertson is joining me to bring us the business news. greece, as ever, at the forefront of the use some of later this week and the kind of dumping on. >> one of the problems is we did not know if th
but he fled to neighboring tunisia soon after tripoli fell. the president of tunisia has called his extradition illegal and says it was done without his consent. and human rights groups were concerned that he is at a real risk of torture or death and libya but the new government pledged to treat all detainees fairly, including gaddafi's son who authorities say should be tried in libya and not by the international criminal courts. that tussle remains unresolved but what is more certain is that...
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of people who were in the opposition and had historical credibility no one can deny the fact that in tunisia in egypt mr president they had popularity and they were tortured and repressed so the first reaction was coming back to make reference and supporting the people who had this historical credibility does it mean that it's going to stay the same does it mean that we are going through steps is to be seen but what we have seen in tunisia and what we witnessing in egypt is still very complex is not yet done i'm not sure even at the time i'm talking to you that the muslim brotherhood are going to win the election i'm. almost sure that it's going to be the opposite and we all this process is the coming back of the old regime with a very strong egypt i would like to speak a little bit in detail about egypt right now the constitution is still not drafted it's going to be drafted problem much later so the president is going to be elected and he's you know he's going to know about his powers only after he's elected and the constitution will also of course depend. on who is elected the president c
of people who were in the opposition and had historical credibility no one can deny the fact that in tunisia in egypt mr president they had popularity and they were tortured and repressed so the first reaction was coming back to make reference and supporting the people who had this historical credibility does it mean that it's going to stay the same does it mean that we are going through steps is to be seen but what we have seen in tunisia and what we witnessing in egypt is still very complex...
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it started with the suicide of a vegetable seller in tunisia. then libya started, egypt started and so forth. egypt was over in 18 days. but you know, libya, was the only true revolution. the leader of tunisia, it was as if he hijacked the state for a while and then now he is not in power. and then in egypt, the real powers haven't changed that much. in libya, everything was thrown up in the air. gaddafi was like the spider at the center of the web. the revolution cut the web away, and then there was nothing. it is year zero in libya. let me go back to how i got here. i have been in egypt and then we went over the border to libya. i say we because i am a television reporter and was with a producer and with cameras present. we saw on the walls of the border, a big sign in english that said welcome to free libya. there was a young man there who was perfect. he looked just like rambo. he had long brown hair, he had a bandanna, a vendor of bullets around them. he seemed to be our guide. we drove up, which is in eastern months on 10 city. one of the
it started with the suicide of a vegetable seller in tunisia. then libya started, egypt started and so forth. egypt was over in 18 days. but you know, libya, was the only true revolution. the leader of tunisia, it was as if he hijacked the state for a while and then now he is not in power. and then in egypt, the real powers haven't changed that much. in libya, everything was thrown up in the air. gaddafi was like the spider at the center of the web. the revolution cut the web away, and then...
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. >>> the arab spring uprising started in tunisia. they have a new government. he was a pro democracy leader and now the foreign minister. spoke during a visit to tokyo and talked about syria and the challenges tunesians face. says the situation in syria is becoming more complicated because president al assad is resisting political change. >> have conversation with syrian oppositions. they are following what is happening and following what happened in syria. people no longer accept any regime. they are very keen to have their dignity and their voices to be implemented. >> says he hopes it reaches the islam world. moderate islamest party won last october. argues that the future of democracy in his country depends on whether the government to solve economic and social concerns that prompted young people to protest. >> we have to make our country more attractive to business and investment. we are very keen to invest in the human resources in tunisia, to provide more jobs and opportunities for the younger generations in the inner cities. >> he says they want the gov
. >>> the arab spring uprising started in tunisia. they have a new government. he was a pro democracy leader and now the foreign minister. spoke during a visit to tokyo and talked about syria and the challenges tunesians face. says the situation in syria is becoming more complicated because president al assad is resisting political change. >> have conversation with syrian oppositions. they are following what is happening and following what happened in syria. people no longer...
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and the ex-president is living in tunisia. it is day 26 of the olympic torch's 8,000-mime tour of the united kingdom. today it began in the scottish town. our correspondent is in scotland. the torch hasn't quite reached you, yet, sophie, has it? but it's been on the beach, and the pictures look amazing. >> yes. welcome in scotland. we're expecting the olympic flame to arrive here just before lunchtime. and it is a real key day in the tour of scotland. it stabbeds in stante andrew's home of golf, home of scotland's oldest university attended by both prince william and his wife, kate middleton. not just olympic history re-enacted. but many people will remember the film about the paris fleems 1984 and the scene where they are running along the west sands, that scene happened this morning. school boy joe forster, just 13 years old is a very keen character, he carried the olympic torch along the beach with children following him. so quite a scene. and along to that tune, the fire giving a lot of people goose bumps this morning. it
and the ex-president is living in tunisia. it is day 26 of the olympic torch's 8,000-mime tour of the united kingdom. today it began in the scottish town. our correspondent is in scotland. the torch hasn't quite reached you, yet, sophie, has it? but it's been on the beach, and the pictures look amazing. >> yes. welcome in scotland. we're expecting the olympic flame to arrive here just before lunchtime. and it is a real key day in the tour of scotland. it stabbeds in stante andrew's home...
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likely to stay right where it is in tunisia. this is from our own intel community. >> rose: let's go to the crises because that's getting a lot of attention here. explain what the president found when he came to the office. what president bush said to him and what the president did to double down. >> president bush had started a program called olympic games which was an effort to find a way to slow the iranian program without bombing them and without having the israelis bomb them. it started around 2006 and 2007 when general cartwrite and some intel owe fcials we discussed before came to president bush and said we think we have a way to do this. but it's risky, we've never tried it before and it involves using cyber weapons which the united states -- remember to this day charlie, even after her friday excerpt in the "new york times," the unites has admitted to using cyber weapons, it has never admitted to using them once. so what did president bush say. he said well you can go out and try this, see what happens. and so what they
likely to stay right where it is in tunisia. this is from our own intel community. >> rose: let's go to the crises because that's getting a lot of attention here. explain what the president found when he came to the office. what president bush said to him and what the president did to double down. >> president bush had started a program called olympic games which was an effort to find a way to slow the iranian program without bombing them and without having the israelis bomb them....
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what happened in tunisia has nothing to do with israel or libya. and i think we should let the arabs reform their lives and stop using the palestinian/israeli conflict as an excuse. now, elections are important. i think the youngsters -- doing important things. they brought an end to dictatorship after the uprise of the youngsters. i don't really commend anybody who seeks a guaranteed job to be a dictator in the middle east. it became totally uncomfortable. forced people to go to elections. made a mistake, they didn't prepare themselves for the elections. even if you're a majority, if he opportunity have a solution for economic problems of egypt, the elections don't mean much. if they don't have a solution for the security, if egypt elections doesn't mean much. i will just say to people in egypt, don't forget more a moment that 60% of the population are young people. the future is theirs. and they're sick and tired. they don't want to remain poor. they want freedom. many of them open their eyes. in tunisia, i watched that many of the demonstrators
what happened in tunisia has nothing to do with israel or libya. and i think we should let the arabs reform their lives and stop using the palestinian/israeli conflict as an excuse. now, elections are important. i think the youngsters -- doing important things. they brought an end to dictatorship after the uprise of the youngsters. i don't really commend anybody who seeks a guaranteed job to be a dictator in the middle east. it became totally uncomfortable. forced people to go to elections....
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the arab spring movement started in tunisia. people in the north african country succeeded in overthrowing the old regime. rafik abdessalem helped bring about change as a pro-democracy leader. now he's the foreign minister. abdessalem says the situation in syria is more complicated because assad resists change. >> we have conversations with people and we are following since the region is deeply connected. people no longer accept a despotic regime, they advocate to have their dignity and their voices to be implemented in the political situations. >> abdessalem hopes the move toward democracy reaches different parts of the arab world. he says tunisians must send a positive message that islam and democracy can co-exist. moderate islamist party won parliamentary elections in tunisia last october. abdessalem says the future of democracy depends on whether the government can solve economic and social concerns that prompted young people to protest. >>> ai uchida, what is on the table? >> catherine, you and i a few days ago talked about
the arab spring movement started in tunisia. people in the north african country succeeded in overthrowing the old regime. rafik abdessalem helped bring about change as a pro-democracy leader. now he's the foreign minister. abdessalem says the situation in syria is more complicated because assad resists change. >> we have conversations with people and we are following since the region is deeply connected. people no longer accept a despotic regime, they advocate to have their dignity and...
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no one has egypt elected its president or has the spring ended almost the same thing is happening in tunisia and in yemen there's no fruit there's just this expression of the arab spring and i really think that what we see today is an israeli spring who will pose a threat to israel now and palestinians dying every day and no one protests before even if one palestinian was killed there was an outrage today three palestinians get killed or ten or twenty and nobody says anything there's not even any talk about differences within the palestinian movement with my. mind was i have been as mr minister i'd like to ask you about the abduction of eleven lebanese citizens no doubt you follow the situation closely and you disgusted with the turkish colleagues during your own prime minister's visit to turkey what is the current situation with these people who kidnapped them when will they return home to their families. would i can only give you a very general answer because we made an agreement with turkey not to disclose the details to the media the kidnapped people are on syrian territory two kilometer
no one has egypt elected its president or has the spring ended almost the same thing is happening in tunisia and in yemen there's no fruit there's just this expression of the arab spring and i really think that what we see today is an israeli spring who will pose a threat to israel now and palestinians dying every day and no one protests before even if one palestinian was killed there was an outrage today three palestinians get killed or ten or twenty and nobody says anything there's not even...
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in an arab country and recently there was a terrorist attack in front of a man from tunisia or algeria killed three or four children wasn't that a terrorist attack terrorist attacks happen all over the world the best way to address this problem is to consolidate to the people of lebanon. mr minister part of the repercussions of the syrian crisis may be avoided by demarcating the border between lebanon and syria. i'm a shithead at the bit of the demarcation of the border will not stop terrorists from crossing over into another country. but the situation will be more transparent than that's true the situation will be more transparent we should have had a proper border a long time ago. that . the goal of. live. good speech. her. mum will. look. good at least. look. at. her. mind i'm a little. these . thanks. to. say to. them is. sick of the members. coming. many people thought that nuclear weapons disappeared. by mistake. you know if you keep spending a trillion dollars a year. you're going to blow everybody you know people are dying from these weapons but until we actually see it people
in an arab country and recently there was a terrorist attack in front of a man from tunisia or algeria killed three or four children wasn't that a terrorist attack terrorist attacks happen all over the world the best way to address this problem is to consolidate to the people of lebanon. mr minister part of the repercussions of the syrian crisis may be avoided by demarcating the border between lebanon and syria. i'm a shithead at the bit of the demarcation of the border will not stop terrorists...
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tunisia has huge problems, but they have a freely elected government. all i'm saying is the united states should assist, help, but not dictate. when the united states starts dictating with people, that's when the resentment rises. so i'm overall optimistic. but there will be ups and downs. i would like to remind you after the berlin wall fell and the collapse of the soviet union, many of these former iron curtain countries had their ups and downs. we look back now and it was a smooth path. it wasn't. someone elected a government and later elected the communists again. look, the world is changing. tech tonic changes. the world's economy, shifting the asia pacific, this arab spring. people are asserting they legitimate rights. and the united states of america in many cases is the example. you know who else is the example every place i go in the region? turkey. we want to be like turkey. that's what they say. they see this reconciliation between islam and democracy. i've made them very clear. but when you see what people want, they understand that this rec
tunisia has huge problems, but they have a freely elected government. all i'm saying is the united states should assist, help, but not dictate. when the united states starts dictating with people, that's when the resentment rises. so i'm overall optimistic. but there will be ups and downs. i would like to remind you after the berlin wall fell and the collapse of the soviet union, many of these former iron curtain countries had their ups and downs. we look back now and it was a smooth path. it...
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in an arab country recently there was a terrorist attack in front of a man from tunisia or algeria killed three or four children wasn't that a terrorist attack terrorist attacks happen all over the world and the best way to address this problem is to consolidate to the people of lebanon. mr minister part of the repercussions of the syrian crisis may be avoided by demarcating the border between lebanon and syria. the demarcation of the border will not stop terrorists from crossing over into another country but the situation will be more transparent that's true the situation will be more transparent we should have had a proper border a long time ago. please . please. please. to see. it. live please. speak. to. her. wish. to come it's good. to see. her. gifts. and. her. mind i'm a little. keith. with the end of the war and the going away of the soviet union many people thought that nuclear weapons disappeared. the risk is not zero that something might be going off by. it's to expose a lot of the weapons on hair trigger alert. of the victims to use it. all but you know if you keep spending a
in an arab country recently there was a terrorist attack in front of a man from tunisia or algeria killed three or four children wasn't that a terrorist attack terrorist attacks happen all over the world and the best way to address this problem is to consolidate to the people of lebanon. mr minister part of the repercussions of the syrian crisis may be avoided by demarcating the border between lebanon and syria. the demarcation of the border will not stop terrorists from crossing over into...